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Friday, December 15, 2017

"With Strange Aeons" : My Introduction to Lovecraft

 
From the fall of 2010 to the very tail end of 2015, I lived in various parts of eastern Maryland between Washington, D.C. and Baltimore. During this period, I only visited Alabama and saw my family twice a year, for my birthday in July, and for Christmas / New Year. During these trips – especially centered as they were around two times of year when I’m usually in a buying mood – I tended to let myself splurge, especially on books and movies. (Also LEGO sets, but that’s not currently relevant.)

My trip home at the end of 2013 / start of 2014 was a rough one though; my roommate had announced unexpectedly in November that he would be moving out, leaving me to either find a replacement or a new place to live. By the time of my visit home, I still hadn’t had success at either venture, and knew that by the end of January, I would be in dire straits indeed unless something changed. I tell you all of that so you have an idea of my mindset as I stood in the Tuscaloosa Barnes & Noble, holding copies of “At the Mountains of Madness and Other Weird Tales” and “The Call of Cthulhu and Other Dark Tales” from the B&N Library of Essential Reading.

 


 

All things practically considered, I should not have purchased those books, nor should I have gotten online and ordered the third volume of the set, “The Other Gods and More Unearthly Tales.” Money was tight, I had limited free time, and anything new I took back to my apartment was just going to have to be packed away almost as soon as it came in the door. I did buy them, though, and by the time February arrived, I was in a great new place and ready to dive into some cosmic horror. After pondering where to begin for a day or so, I finally decided to see what all the hype was about and flipped to the opening of the novella “At the Mountains of Madness.”

I’m not generally one to sing my own praises, but one thing I do rather well is reading, and so I fully expected to finish the story – which comes in at a little over 100 pages – within no more than two hours, including breaks. Imagine my surprise and delight, then, when it took me several consecutive evening sessions to reach those final shrieks of “Tekeli-li! Tekeli-li!” I was even less prepared for the growing sense of unease the novella created within me; I wouldn’t say it scared me, necessarily, at least not in the sense with which most people use that word. Rather, certain sections – particularly the finding of the elder things, and the descent into the great underground city – unsettled me both as I read them, and when I contemplated them later.

Before I embarked upon that first reading, I believed myself familiar with Lovecraft’s mythos and legacy, at least in theory. I had heard the “demonic couplet;” flipped through the rulebooks for the “Call of Cthulhu” tabletop RPG; seen “Event Horizon” and “Alien” and “John Carpenter’s The Thing.” As time and further study would show, though, I actually had nowhere near enough appreciation for how much his works had influenced so many things I loved. For instance, halfway through “At the Mountains of Madness,” I realized that the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen tie-in “Nemo: Heart of Ice” was a direct homage set in those same accursed Antarctic locales.

Beyond that better understanding of his influence, though, came the deepening realization that exploring his works themselves represented a vast and potentially dangerous venture. In my lifetime, I can only think of one other author’s works which have presented the same sort of challenge, that being John Ronald Reuel Tolkien. The difference is that even in the darkest parts of the stories, the Shire and Imladris remained inviting places, where fair maidens dwelt, and celebrations eventually awaited weary heroes returning home. Those brightly-lit halls are literal worlds removed from the dim shelves of Arkham library, the shadowed alleys of Innsmouth, or the murky depths of the Atlantic. It’s ironic that Lovecraft’s tales so often feature protagonists who knowingly seek out information best left hidden away, because I can’t think of a better comparison to becoming a fan of his writing. That sense of unease never really goes away – if anything, it gets stronger – and yet you find yourself turning pages late into the night, seeking unwanted answers to questions no sane person should be asking.

Fast-forward to Labor Day Weekend 2015, and you’ll find me in Atlanta for that year’s DragonCon, better in some ways and worse in others than when I first ventured upon those stygian, icy shores. I’m standing at a jewelry booth in the dealer’s room, eyeing a silver ring styled as a class ring from Miskatonic University, Class of 1928. It’s not the first time I’ve stopped to look at it, but the young lady currently working this end of the table is the exact right kind of nerdy cute to make me linger. (I am male, and susceptible to such things; dealers at cons know this, and use it to their advantage.) She’s also a better saleswoman than her peers, and smartly offers to let me try several different sizes on, to see which one fits best. I’m sold as soon as I see it on my finger, but some fiscally conservative part of me is still trying to talk me out of it.
 

Sensing my hesitation – and a potential lost sale – the young woman compliments how it looks, and asks why I still seem uncertain. “I’m worried it would make me look like a poser,” I admit, revealing more of my inner thought processes than intended. Most people don’t concern themselves with whether or not people might see their Lovecraft homage ring and question the wearer’s authenticity as a fan. That’s exactly what I was contemplating, though. “Well,” she replied, “most posers don’t know enough to even stop and look here. How many Lovecraft stories have you read?” It is this moment to which I have been guiding us in this little aside – I bought the ring, and wear it to this day – because her question made me realize just how far from a poser I really was. While I still haven’t read every Lovecraft story, by that point already there weren’t any of the “big ones” left that I hadn’t read at least once. I had become a genuine Lovecraft aficionado in my spare time without actively realizing it, and the revelation stirred something in the uneasy depths of my mind.

That something continued to stretch and groan in an uneasy slumber for a little over a month, at which point my friend Bryant began writing a series of posts about Lovecraft on his blog “The Truth Inside the Lie.” I cannot recommend those posts – or that blog in general, which is about Stephen King, mostly – to you enough. For 2015 me, Bryant’s own Lovecraftian expedition caused the thing in my mind to stretch obsidian wings too vast for human comprehension, which carried it to the forefront of my thinking. Over the next few months, while corresponding with Bryant about his readings, I acquired no less than seventeen volumes that were related to H. P. Lovecraft. These included more story collections written by Lovecraft, two collections of stories which influenced Lovecraft, two collections of stories which Lovecraft either ghost-wrote or edited, and several collections of stories inspired by Lovecraft. I also bought several board games that use the Cthulhu mythos as their setting, but those are harder to justify as being intended for “academic pursuits.”


 

Because, you see, “academic pursuits” is exactly how I rationalized spending that money, and adding more books to my collection less than two months before a major move. Oh, that’s right; I forgot to mention the new move! Yes, shortly after DragonCon I began planning and packing for another move, this time all the way from Maryland back to Alabama. And yes, I was once again devoting funds, box space, and time to Lovecraft rather than more practical applications of those resources. I truly did have the intention of making the most of those purchases once I settled into my new place. In my mind, I would be huddled over my desk late into the nights, not unlike Gandalf as he delved into the archives of Minas Tirith. It has long been a desire of mine to get back into academia and regain ground on my path to a PhD, and Lovecraft’s works seemed – and still seem – a worthwhile foundation on which to forge that path.

Unfortunately, that plan ran afoul of both life and my own difficulties in following through on projects, the latter of which may yet consume even this very piece you’re currently reading. While my new accommodations upon returning to Bama were warm, safe, and clean, I was unfortunately not afforded either the contemplative atmosphere or necessary physical space in which to comfortably study. On top of that, finding new employment proved much more difficult than expected, and I didn’t secure a new job until the middle of June. While I’ll be the first to admit that some of that time spent unemployed could have been put to better use, the fact is that being unemployed when you desire otherwise is a stressful and unpleasant state of existence. Finally, during that time I actually was engaged in a literary pursuit, and somewhat extensively at that; it’s just that the pursuit was writing stories of my own rather than analyzing ones written by someone else.

The beginning of 2017 presented me with both a new abode that is much more conducive to analytical pursuits, along with a new job that affords me slightly more leeway in terms of free time and finances. Unfortunately, May of this year also presented me with a diagnosis of Stage 3-C melanoma, after several months of poor health which were quite outside the norm for me. Many things which I had thought to accomplish this year were set aside, while a few things I hadn’t thought to look for came into my life and brightened it in astonishing ways. Lovecraft has risen once more to the surface; last Christmas I received a genuine surprise in the form of the two part biography “I Am Providence,” and for my birthday I got the set which collects all of his letters with Robert E. Howard, plus his complete poetical works. The inimitable Alan Moore completed his twelve-issue “Providence” series, and it’s all been collected in hardback for easy access. Perhaps most exciting from an academic standpoint, seminal Lovecraft scholar S.T. Joshi released a four-volume set which recollects all of Lovecraft’s fiction with new annotations and textual references.




 

On a deeper level, though, I can’t deny that my battle with cancer has altered certain aspects about how I view the world, and what does and doesn’t seem important. Lovecraft himself died at an early age from an undiagnosed cancer, and who can say what else his life might have been if he had access to modern medicine. While some might disagree, it’s my opinion that there’s symmetry between hearing you have cancer and the revelations of cosmic horror reached by most of Lovecraft’s protagonists. For a moment everything just seems to stop, and then it all starts moving again, but nothing means the same thing anymore. You’ve been presented with evidence of something against which you can fight, but may never fully prevail.

Even worse, somehow, is the fact that this thing isn’t actively antagonizing you. You’re not its enemy, you just happen to exist in the same space, and most of the time that ends poorly for creatures on the “human” end of the spectrum. People personify and demonize cancer all the time – I’ve done it myself in recent months – but the fact is it doesn’t have an agenda; it’s just cells that are replicating out-of-control. When you’re up against that kind of reasonless destructive force – one which consumes the lives of children and the elderly alike – there’s a primal part of you that begins to wonder if we actually matter at all.

Now, just in case anyone is worried, I firmly believe that the answer is “Yes, we all matter, including me!” That query lies at the heart of many human endeavors, though; I feel completely confident in saying it definitely lays at the heart of our fascination with horror. Perhaps that’s what really drives Lovecraft’s protagonists, and drives us to read about them, and drove him to write about them. We want to tear back that curtain, to peer into the void beyond the stars, because something in us demands that we do so if for no other reason than so we can say “I gazed into the abyss, and the abyss gazed back, and the abyss ain’t shit.” Lovecraft himself wrote at least one character – his only real recurring character at that – who seems to arrive at that conclusion, in the form of Randolph Carter. The Cthulhu mythos is unquestionably the biggest part of his legacy, but for my money “The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath” and its companion pieces are far more interesting.

The particulars of my opinion on that subject, along with other insights – such as why my favorite Lovecraft story is “The Shadow Out of Time,” which I’ve only just mentioned! – are beyond the scope of this particular post. The intention of this post, which has admittedly taken me far too long to bring to fruition, is simply to offer you all an insight into how and why my interest in Lovecraft first arose. The secondary intention, and the one which is perhaps too lofty in its ambitions, is for this post to serve as a kicking-off point for a series of posts (gasp!) about the stories of H.P. Lovecraft and their impact both on yours truly and pop culture in the broader sense.

18 comments:

B McMolo said...

I've never read Lovecraft! It keeps coming back to haunt me. Seems like the perfect time to jump in with you starting a tour of it all.

This was a great read. That's funny how Lovecraft came about right before both moves.

Xann Black said...

Do it! My plan is to go a similar route to how Bryant approached it over on Truth Inside the Lie; I'll start with a post that just runs down his works, whether I've read them, and what I thought / can remember of them.

Then, using my fancy new Joshi volumes, I'll really dig in to each story starting with "The Tomb." As I mentioned in this post, I kind of jumped all over the place when I first started reading him. That works fine for getting into an author's body of work, but is less conducive to the sort of semi-academic pursuits I have in mind.

For starting out, you do you, but if you'd like recommendations, I'd say "The Shadow Over Innsmouth" or "The Whisperer in Darkness" great jumping-on points. Both showcase all of the essential Lovecraftian elements, and are from when his writing was nearing its zenith.

On the subject of the moves, that hadn't really occurred to me until I started writing this piece; maybe I should buy some boxes and packing tape if this newest re-kindling takes off?

For my move at the end of 2015, one particular tidbit I should add is that I discovered the band Foals, and specifically their song "Mountain at My Gates." It kind of resonated with me for numerous reasons, but for the Lovecraft aspect, I give you these lines:

"Through lanes and stone rows
Black granite, wind blows
Fire lake and far flame
Go now but come again
Dark clouds gather 'round
Will I run or stand my ground?"

Here's a link to the music video if you want to check it out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_EIE5f2t6M

Bryant Burnette said...

(1) "All things practically considered, I should not have purchased those books, nor should I have gotten online and ordered the third volume of the set" -- A version of this sentence has been said by virtually every reader/collector of books dozens of times. It's always true; and it's always completely false.

(2) "Event Horizon" terrified me. I should watch it again to see if it still does.

(3) I can sort of see Tolkien and Lovecraft as being different sides of some weird coin. Whether they have anything in common in their actual writing(s), both authors created a body of work that is full of emotional resonance tied to place. If the reader can connect to them on that level, I think they are apt to be hooked regardless of other concerns. For me, I think a big part of why I connected with Tolkien is that Rivendell reminds me of being at my grandparents' house(s); nothing more complicated to it than that.

Lovecraft actually reminds me of the same thing, but in different ways. Fascinating! Worthy of further consideration, too, some other time.

(4) "dealers at cons know this, and use it to their advantage" -- Not just at cons, either; but DEFINITELY at cons. I bet that must suck for some of the women they put on those front-lines.

(5) "I bought the ring, and wear it to this day" -- Another Tolkien connection, in a way, isn't it?

Bryant Burnette said...

(6) I am intrigued by the notion of poserdom in relation to this topic. Do you think many posers actually DO buy such pieces as that ring? I wouldn't be surprised either way. "Poserdom" as a concept is so fraught with peril. Like, for example, I recently saw a young black woman -- and by "young" I mean maybe 14/15/16, something like that -- wearing a Guns N' Roses t-shirt, and my first thought was to assume she has NEVER heard a Guns N' Roses song in her damn LIFE. She just got the t-shirt for some reason. But then I started wondering, well, but what if I'm wrong about that? Just because she's a black teenager she couldn't be a GNR fan? (I mean, probably not, statistically-speaking; but it's certainly not impossible.) I started sort of making up stories about her in my head, and kind of passed an entire night away at work contemplating the issue.

In the end, I decided she probably WAS a poser ... but hoping she wasn't, and that she could sing me every line of "Rocket Queen" if challenged.

Anyways, back to the issue at hand: what do you suppose a Lovecraft-fan poser would have to gain from posing as a Lovecraft fan?

(7) "That something continued to stretch and groan in an uneasy slumber for a little over a month, at which point my friend Bryant began writing a series of posts about Lovecraft" -- Nice! Funny how things like that work sometimes, isn't it?

(8) Would you say that "academic pursuits" is almost the polar opposite of being a poser? It kind of strikes me that way. As you know, I've got many interests of my own that qualify under the "academic pursuits" classification.

Bryant Burnette said...

(9) "While some might disagree, it’s my opinion that there’s symmetry between hearing you have cancer and the revelations of cosmic horror reached by most of Lovecraft’s protagonists." -- I mean ... is this even questionable? I've not read his biography or letters, but it seems unthinkable that he didn't -- if only subconsciously -- have some notion of what was going on with his body, and if that's true, then it's equally unthinkable that that didn't translate into his work in some ways.

But even if it isn't a direct correlation, it still works. Tolkien tells you that eventually, everything will be okay; Lovecraft tells you that eventually, everything will be lost. That's why his best stories -- and maybe even some of his worst -- are powerful: he's telling you a version of the truth. We all know, somewhere inside us, that things are bound to be awful. If not today, then tomorrow; if not tomorrow, then yesterday, and probably the day after tomorrow, too.

And I think a lot of people who read horror fiction do so because they come to find that message to be its own kind of reassurance. I think it genuinely can help soften the blow of things like, oh, let's say finding out one has cancer. Having never been through that, I don't know what it's like; but I imagine my reaction would be along the lines of saying, "Well, I always knew some kind of bullshit like this was on the way." Life is really just a daytrip to Innsmouth that unexpectedly turns into an overnight stay, every time.

But every day that manages NOT to turn into that is ... well, it's kind of like a day in Rivendell in retrospect, isn't it? Because that truth is true, too, in its way.

(10) "Even worse, somehow, is the fact that this thing isn’t actively antagonizing you. You’re not its enemy, you just happen to exist in the same space" -- Cold indifference; the crushing weight of irrelevance. But yes, of course we all also matter; if only to ourselves, but hey, guess what? THAT COUNTS! And in that side of the equation, we arguably possess a bit of power against the indifference. I think things like this are a part -- perhaps a very large part -- of what powers some people through life.

(11) "That query lies at the heart of many human endeavors, though; I feel completely confident in saying it definitely lays at the heart of our fascination with horror." -- Agreed, obviously.

(12) "The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath" has so much imagination in it that I think a lot of readers have simply bounced off of it. Otherwise, it's be much more celebrated than it is. I keep coming back to Tolkien, and I'd say "Kadath" is not dissimilar to "The Silmarillion" in terms of density. You don't necessarily just casually sit down with either one; you have to work at them. but doing so carries rewards.

(13) Bring on that series of posts!

Xann Black said...

(1) I figure that phrase is simply the mantra of all collectioning: “I don’t need this, but I do.” My mind always goes back to something an ex said to me in the middle of a fight, which was that one day I’d look around at all of my things, and see nothing but wasted time and money.

While I can’t deny that I do have such moments, they only occur on days when life has seen fit to be rather nasty to yours truly. At all other times, I experience the exact opposite, in that being around my things has a reinvigorating effect. I suspect all collectors - be it of books or vintage 1950s lampshades - feel that same effect.

(2) That movie scared the ever-loving bejeezus out of me. There’s a particular scene in which Sam Neill is in the vent shafts / maintenance tunnels / some confined space and is confronted by his dead wife which still makes me shudder in the middle of the afternoon. …but yeah, I’d totally be down for watching it again!

(3) I think that sense of place is a definite draw for not just Tolkien and Lovecraft, but for all works of literature; I’ll agree it plays a bigger role in their works, though. I actually read back through Tolkien’s main works around the same time and while living in the same new place. Most of that reading was done either in bed, or on the couch by the big windows in the living room. Since it was winter in Maryland, I was generally wrapped up to keep warm, and it was frequently overcast, with some snowy days and nights thrown in.

Sitting here at my computer desk in Alabama years later, I can still *feel* how it felt while I was reading those books; I don’t even have to do the whole “close my eyes” thing. Now, whether that is a product of the writing, or a product of the environment, is a discussion I’m sure psychologists could have for days on end. For me, I think it’s probably a little of both, but my English degree tells me to give the edge to the writing.

(4) At E3, the big gaming convention, they actually pulled the plug on “booth babes” within the past decade. This young lady was not that – she obviously had a connection with the shop, and was possibly even one of the owners – but she was a sharp saleswoman who recognized that complimenting how the ring looked on my finger was to her advantage. Lest I sound like one of those “red pill” guys, though, she definitely had a knowledge of Lovecraft, and our conversation about his work was genuinely engaging.

I guess it’s also possible that she was actually flirting with me, but that likelihood never seems to occur until too long after the fact for me to act on it in any capacity. Like you said, women working booths at cons – or really just women at cons in general, unfortunately – endure so much bullshit from male attendees that I felt it safer not to assume any flirtatious intent.

(5) You know, it’s funny you say that. There are times, like right now, when the ring fits absolutely perfectly. Sometimes, though, it gets really loose, to the point where it will slip off my finger if I’m not careful. I know it’s a silly thought, but every now and then when it’s slipping off frequently, I wonder if it’s trying to spur me down into stygian depths once more.

Xann Black said...

(6) I’m going to address this comment in two different veins!

(a) Regarding the girl and the t-shirt, in the world of Spencer Gifts and Hot Topic, there’s really no way of knowing. I’m reminded of an image which made the rounds on the web a few years back. The short, quick version is that it involved a teenage girl wearing a Nirvana t-shirt in her profile picture commenting on a post and saying she had “no idea” who Kurt Cobain was, and then getting angry with the people who chastised her in response.

(b) Posers / poserdom is something frequently discussed regarding all forms of media and pop culture. I feel like it comes up most frequently with regards to what music people like – see the previous point of discussion above! – then immediately thereafter comes almost all “nerd” pursuits. You also find this mentality with sports fans, with people who feel that if you can’t name the complete roster from every one of the Bear’s championship teams, you’re not a “real” Crimson Tide fan.

Thing is, I think maybe the conversation about “posers” is a bigger issue than anyone actually pretending to be a fan of something to gain “nerd cred” or whatever. I mean, yeah, I know people who jump in on conversations about Game of Thrones in my vicinity, seemingly forgetting that they’ve told me they don’t watch the show. Is it annoying? Yeah, kind of. Do I really care that much? Not really, unless they decided to start arguing with me about some aspect of the show, which they never do.

For the most part, I think the term “poser” is more often than not incorrectly applied to either people who don’t really care, or people who are trying to get rolling with a fandom but don’t want to be put down by asshole “real fans.” The girl in the Nirvana t-shirt from that meme would be an example of the former; for her, Nirvana is just some word that frequently appears on shit in Hot Topic alongside a funky-looking smiley face. The fact that it actually represents not just a band, but an entire iconic shift in rock music, plus the early death of a massively influential young musician, clearly meant nothing to her based on her comments.

On the flip side of that, you have people who recognize the significance of whatever the thing is that they’re “posing” about, and don’t want to be left out. At times this can annoying if they interject themselves into a discussion when they clearly have no real knowledge of the subject matter, but that seems like a rare occurrence. More likely, I think you’ll find people telling white lies about whether they’ve seen Movie X or TV Show Y, simply so the other people in the conversation aren’t potentially jerks to them. That’s a very real concern, unfortunately, because nerds / geeks / fans can be real assholes, as I’m sure anyone reading this post can attest.

This worry about being seen as a poser may also just be something that sticks in my mind more than other people. For instance, earlier this year, I finished The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. It might surprise many of my friends to discover that this is the first Zelda game I’ve ever beaten completely on my own. I’ve previously only finished the two most well-regarded entries in the series – Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time, respectively – with friends, with each of us playing different sections. Even now, I’m loath to admit this, because it feels like a black mark on my “gamer cred.”

Taking it one step further, just tonight I received my Christmas gift from Oz, which was a very kick-ass replica of the Master Sword, the iconic weapon which Link has to acquire in each game in the series. Oz had watched me play a fair amount of BotW, and knew how much I enjoyed it, so correctly determined I would love receiving the “sword that seals the darkness” as a gift. Thing is, as much as I love it, and can’t wait to display it, there’s a tiny voice in the back of my mind whispering that I’m not a “real” Zelda fan, and therefore undeserving of the sword.

Xann Black said...

(7) “All things serve the Beam.” At this point in my life, I’m beyond seeing things like that as mere coincidence, although I’m sure plenty of people would roll their eyes at such talk. It goes back to that day you told me not to come back from my back without a copy of The Gunslinger, though. That directive put me on a path to experience the Tower, discussions of which helped deepen our friendship, which has expanded both of our horizons as we’ve shared other favorite stories. While neither of us could realistically take full credit for what the other one has written on our respective blogs, it would be folly to pretend we haven’t spurred one another on. Heck, it’s your Guided Tour posts over on Truth Inside the Lie which have largely been the impetus for me to finally start diving back into Lovecraft!

(8) Actually, if I had to pick the area in which I think people are most prone to feign expertise on a subject, it would be academia! This comes from both personal experience – my grad school seminars were fraught with folks espousing nonsense about works they had obviously not read – and watching things play out in gaming / nerd journalism. For instance, there is a woman named Anita Sarkeesian who gained popularity in recent years due to her “Tropes vs. Women in Video Games” series of analytical YouTube videos. She was also wrapped up into the “GamerGate” controversy a while back, and eventually ended up on Colbert, and now she makes bank doing speaking engagements and all sorts of stuff.

Thing is, there’s a video of her talking to potential supporters for her “Feminist Frequency” project where she flat-out admits she never really played games up to that point, but she thinks gaming is a really good avenue for her theories. Which would have been fine – academics analyze things which they aren’t really invested in all the time for research, etc. – except that in her videos, interviews, and talks she now presents herself as having “grown up playing video games.” That would be like me presenting myself as a “lifelong Lovecraft fan” just because weird fiction is having a resurgence right now. (It really is, too! I’m going to talk about it in a later post.)

Xann Black said...

(9) “Tolkien tells you that eventually, everything will be okay; Lovecraft tells you that eventually, everything will be lost.” I both agree with that sentiment, and immediately find ways in which it is inaccurate. Yes, Tolkien’s outlook is generally more positive, but he doesn’t shy away from his characters having to deal with the reality of life and death. I’m thinking specifically of Gandalf’s conversation with Pippin while Minas Tirith is under attack; anything involving the Grey Havens and White Ships has a similar tinge of melancholy to it.

Alternatively, Lovecraft’s stories perhaps don’t offer much in the way of reassuring his characters of their own lasting legacy – or even that of humanity as a whole – but “everything” will not be lost. At the heart of cosmic horror is the understanding that there are things in the universe which have existed since long before mankind stumbled out of our caves, and will persist long after all of our history and achievements have passed beyond memory. Which leads me to…

(10) Cold indifference. This is where the key difference between Tolkien and Lovecraft really jumps out for me. The Valar care about the events in Middle-earth, and as best they can, work to help the light prevail over darkness; the old gods / ancient ones / beings from beyond in Lovecraft interact with humanity as a curiosity at best, but mostly we aren’t even remotely worthy of their notice. Morgoth and Sauron are presented as beings of evil, but that word doesn’t really apply to Cthulhu or Azathoth, who threaten humanity merely by existing, but without any malicious intent behind it.

As far as our ability to stand against the cold nothingness on the edges of the universe, I’m most immediately reminded of a line from Angel: “If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do.” Even as a man of faith who believes in an afterlife, if I expect to succeed in overcoming cancer, I have to embrace the importance of each moment. Things like watching The Last Jedi, or spending peaceful hours working on a model, or writing blog posts and responding to comments on them; all of those activities and hundreds more are exactly what keep me going, far more than some “grand design” I’m hoping to see brought to fruition.

(12) I know I say in the post that “Shadow Out of Time” is my favorite, but that’s only because “Dream-Quest” and the other Randolph Carter stories stand apart from the rest in a way I can’t immediately put my finger on. I completely agree with you that, like the Silmarillion, those stories require a level of dedication from the reader which many people – even fans of Lovecraft’s other works – simply aren’t prepared for or willing to give. I remember being absolutely floored reading that story for the first time, as I simply hadn’t expected Lovecraft to exhibit such bright flights of fancy in his work.

(13) Will do! This week is busy, but I’m hoping to get rolling on my post listing all of his works, and then giving brief commentary on whether or not I’ve read them, and what my thoughts are if I have.

Bryant Burnette said...

(1) A collection needs what it needs. One polices that urge at one's own peril. Granted, it CAN turn into an obsessive/compulsive thing, but even then, I think I'd mostly be inclined to just shrug at somebody who criticized me for it.

(2) Next Lovecraft-a-thon, might not be a bad one to put in the rotation.

(3) "Now, whether that is a product of the writing, or a product of the environment, is a discussion I’m sure psychologists could have for days on end. For me, I think it’s probably a little of both, but my English degree tells me to give the edge to the writing." -- Agreed on all counts.

(4) "or really just women at cons in general, unfortunately" -- REALLY women just in general, sadly.

(5) "I wonder if it’s trying to spur me down into stygian depths once more." -- It might be trying to get back to its true owner. You have my sword! (somebody shouts, so I can then bellow "And MY axe...!")

(6a) "The short, quick version is that it involved a teenage girl wearing a Nirvana t-shirt in her profile picture commenting on a post and saying she had “no idea” who Kurt Cobain was, and then getting angry with the people who chastised her in response." -- I mean, the hell with her, though. I get it, and the idea that she was just wearing a short with a design she liked is one I can absolutely get. However, if a person simply puts on a t-shirt without bothering to research what the content of the design represents, one is asking -- begging, even -- for a comeuppance. I don't think that makes such a person a poser, but I think it might make them a dunce. Granted, I'm a judgmental prick.

(6b) "You also find this mentality with sports fans, with people who feel that if you can’t name the complete roster from every one of the Bear’s championship teams, you’re not a “real” Crimson Tide fan." -- I automatically know this to be true, and this is where the topic gets interesting. It's like how some Trekkies might tell you it's impossible for you to qualify as a Trekkie (they'd say "Trekker," of course) if you haven't seen the original series. Whereas I'd say no, it's possible to be a Trekkie and only know, say, "Enterprise." Not preferable, perhaps; but certainly possible.

"I mean, yeah, I know people who jump in on conversations about Game of Thrones in my vicinity, seemingly forgetting that they’ve told me they don’t watch the show. Is it annoying? Yeah, kind of. Do I really care that much?" -- I'll care about that on your behalf. That person has ceded their right to engage in that conversation. Granted, people now can just read Wikipedia summaries or listen to podcasts or whatever and stay "up-to-date" on such a topic. I'd argue that that is a person who is more interested in conversation than in __________. You and I have talked about that before, of course; and I remain convinced this is the truth. Personally, I think there's a great value in knowing when it's appropriate to just shut the hell up and listen to other people. But, again, judgmental prick.

Bryant Burnette said...

(6b) "Thing is, as much as I love it, and can’t wait to display it, there’s a tiny voice in the back of my mind whispering that I’m not a “real” Zelda fan, and therefore undeserving of the sword." -- Isn't it sufficient for you to simply be a fan of "Breath of the Wild"? And anyways, does non-completion of the other games imply a less-than-true-fan status? I don't think so. That's dumb. Video-game fans are dumb (said the judgmental prick).

(7) "Heck, it’s your Guided Tour posts over on Truth Inside the Lie which have largely been the impetus for me to finally start diving back into Lovecraft!" -- Nice! An unintended result, but a good one, from my point of view. I've got vague hopes of writing about Lovecraft's work in more depth eventually, too, by the way.

(8) "Actually, if I had to pick the area in which I think people are most prone to feign expertise on a subject, it would be academia!" -- Oh, man, I bet. I'd never have thought of that, but it seems true based on my knowledge. I sometimes fume at myself for not pushing myself into that arena long ago, but every time a topic like this comes out, I'm reminded of how out of place I would likely have found myself to be. Either that, or I'd have been corrupted; probably the former, but let's not rule out the latter.

"Which would have been fine – academics analyze things which they aren’t really invested in all the time for research, etc. – except that in her videos, interviews, and talks she now presents herself as having “grown up playing video games.” " -- Now THERE'S a poser. I occasionally find myself with an opportunity to lie about some aspect of one of my fandoms, and I never take it. Why would I? What would there be to gain from a lie like that? What am I trying to convince you of if I tell you a lie like that? What am I trying to convince MYSELF of?!?

But it makes a sort of sense to me; things like this are so deeply embedded in a person's self-identity -- and in the identity/identities they present to the rest of the world -- that OF COURSE ego immediately becomes a part of the equation.

All I'll say is, a person who does that is a person who likely cannot be trusted in any way.

(9) I see your point, and it's a good one. What I'd say in response is that for me, I don't get the sense that Tolkien is truly going for the throat. You could perhaps equate this to a religious viewpoint, in which he is admitting that life holds struggle and strife through which one often must pass, BUT ... with the promise of rest and respite in a sort of paradisical setting if one is able to keep on keeping on. It doesn't happen like that for all of his characters, of course, but it does happen for most of his viewpoint characters. I'd argue that in terms of its emotional impact upon readers, that's a fundamentally optimistic stance.

Whereas Lovecraft's often end up broken, mad, and in true existential despair. THAT, I would argue, is a fundamentally pessimistic stance.

In both cases, of course, it is largely an eye-of-the-beholder thing.

Bryant Burnette said...

(10) "Cthulhu or Azathoth, who threaten humanity merely by existing, but without any malicious intent behind it." -- We are to them but as ants are to us. Perhaps not even ants; perhaps mere dust motes.

"all of those activities and hundreds more are exactly what keep me going, far more than some “grand design” I’m hoping to see brought to fruition. " -- An argument could be made that such activities ARE a grand design of sorts.

(12) I've only read it once, and therefore don't entirely trust myself in speaking about it. But I think that what I'd say is that that novel represents something of what Lovecraft wished he could be. Carter is just a stand-in for himself, and I think he probably wished he could somehow just be ... other ... in some way. Shit, who doesn't? Much of the rest of his body of work seemingly exists as a fictionalized look at The Way Things Are; in "Unknown Kadath," it's telling that all of that remains "true," but in a manner that is more or less conquerable, if only in dreams. So on the one hand, it's an atypical text for Lovecraft, but in a manner that arguably makes it more vital than any other in his canon.

B McMolo said...

"a person who does that is a person who likely cannot be trusted in any way."

Yep. The activist-scholar/shit-starter is a plague on the media-academe. They cause real damage and project actual falsehoods and subvert due process and outright lie. Yet, through the power of narrative, relentlessly applied/ re-enforced, they give themselves awards for courage. Sad times. And Trey's Gamergate example just a drop in the gd bucket.

In happier, more terrifying news, this post kicked off my own Lovecraft reading. I got the Penguin Call of Cthulhu and Other Weird Tales and am 6 or 7 stories into it and love it so far. I also got Moore's Providence on deck. So, if your Lovecraft overview kicked off Trey's overview, then you are the grand-blog-father of my own efforts, here. I like it!

Good stuff here in the comments re: posers and authenticity, but a) you pretty much covered it all and I've little to add, and b) I've softened on this subject considerably. I used to be pretty unforgiving in who was a poser and who wasn't. But poseurdom became so ubiquitous that there's no way to police the gates, and who wants me/anyone to, anyway?

In other news, everytime I click "I'm not a robot" as a captcha, I get the Newcleus song in head. I have to be the only person in the world still to listen to Newcleus fairly frequently. I love that crap, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in8spnUz7S0

Bryant Burnette said...

I'd never even heard of Newcleus, but this song is cool and that album cover is righteous.

On the subject of poseurdom, I generally advocate against being a gatekeeper. I guess I cut that off when it comes to co-opting a thing and then just refusing to engage with it as the thing it actually is. Where the line on such a thing is, I don't know. It's an I-know-it-when-I-see-it kind of thing, I guess.

I looked forward not only to hearing more from Trey about Lovecraft, but also to hearing from you about some of those stories. The best of his fiction is quite a thing.

B McMolo said...

Never heard of Newcleus, he says! Perhaps not by name but surely you remember "Jam On It?" ("wiki-wiki-wiki-wiki!") It was used in "The Wedding Singer," but like myself surely you remember this from the early-to-mid-80s? Perhaps it didn't get the airplay down there, but this was a ubiquitous element to my 4th grade year. Three quick Newcleus memories, very 80s-tastic ones, as I am incapable of just mentioning something; with me, you get a whole slew of piggybacked memories on top of it!

- someone borrowing my textbook (covered in brown paper bag of course) and drawing "Jam On It" in huge, graffiti-bubble-like letters on the back. (This joined the Iron Maiden logo I'd scrawled on there.)

- the playground at Gateway Gardens on Rhein Main Air Force (where we went to school) and someone who lived in one of the ground floor apartments putting his boom-box in the window and playing the cassette. That was the first time I heard the whole album and not just the song. The similarity in this scene described with any number of 80s movies is not lost on me, but it (boombox in this particular window while we played on the playground) happened a lot. I remember hearing The Outfield's big album this way as well, but there's an anecdote for another blog.

- our German bus driver ejecting the cassette from the bus and refusing (in his tortured English) to play any more of it. (His reply to basically anything was "Sitzen platz, junge!"

Anyway, in 2017, I still manage to listen to both Newcleus albums at least once or twice a year, and I love them.

Xann Black said...

(A) How do you guys keep up with comments this extensive, especially trading them back and forth across multiple blogs? It's like writing another blog post (or several!) in itself. I'm not complaining, not in the slightest; I'm just impressed by your commitment.

(B) I'm unbelievably stoked for McMolo to join us on this journey into madness! That Penguin Orange edition is a perfect jumping-on point, and they've also done two other great collections:

"The Dreams in the Witch House: And Other Weird Stories "
"The Thing on the Doorstep and Other Weird Stories"*

*I refer here to the "Penguin Classics" paperback version. There is a "Penguin Horror" hardcover which makes for a nice shelf piece, but has black-edged pages that are not great for reading.

As far as Providence, you're in for both a treat and a bit of work; it is every bit as dense as Watchmen, and the prose half of each issue in particular always took me far longer than expected to finish.

(C) I don't know that I've ever seen the name Newcleus, but "Jam On It" I've definitely heard over the years. Your story about the boombox is great, and like most things in movies, was undoubtedly a staple of 80s films precisely because it frequently took place across thousands of real-world playgrounds. Also, I too had all sorts of doodles on my school things; we were particularly fond of the Metallica logo, because it's awesome, obviously.

(D) Regarding everything involving posers so far, I think Bryant said it best: "I think there's a great value in knowing when it's appropriate to just shut the hell up and listen to other people." This applies in a much broader sense than just our nerd stuff, I think, but is undeniably applicable here.

For instance, when I read stuff on Truth Inside the Lie or Dog Star Omnibus about a book I haven't read, or a movie I haven't seen, I don't jump into the comments and start spouting opinions about it. Usually I go "That sounds cool" and update my Amazon wish list accordingly; in the same vein, I might think "Meh, that's not really my thing" and move on.

But at no point do I consider the option of pretending I've read/seen something which I’ve genuinely never encountered, nor do I truly understand the thought process behind doing so. I’m just going to go read “Duma Key” (I’ll get to it, I will!), or listen to “Nebraska” (again, obviously), and then once I’ve experienced the neat thing, I’ll be excited to talk about it with folks.

B McMolo said...

a) I try to leave as wide and varied a trail for future historians to piece me back together when they can 3-d print me entirely and exclusively from blog comments and such. Fingers crossed...!

b) Wish-listed both. I finished "Herman West, Re-Animator" earlier. Not bad, but not my fave so far.

c) I had a friend who'd always rip off his book cover whenever I drew the Metallica logo on it. Then complain about having to re-cover the book. Naturally we always managed to tag his book every other day. Ahh 8th and 9th grade.

d) I'm in theory a big fan of knowing when to shut the hell up and listen. In practice, I probably could follow this a bit better.

Bryant Burnette said...

@ McMolo -- I can't swear to this, but ... I don't think I'd ever heard "Jam On It" before listening to it on YouTube just now. Didn't ring any bells for me at all.

(A) Boy, now THERE'S a "Black Mirror episode waiting to be written. Man resurrected via robot and programmed via his Disqus comments. Ugh, I might vomit.

(B) I like the story, but it's not one of my faves, either. I think that's one of those cases where the movie has overwritten the source material. Mmm, Barbara Crampton...

(D) Couldn't we all?

@ Xann --

(A) I sacrifice sleep and healthy living to make it possible, personally. But only for some topics. In the end, I think what I'd say is that if I engage with the topic the blogger is blogging about, I figure I owe it to them to engage directly with specific points, if only to let them know that I actually read it. There are times that I get comments on my posts that make it fairly obvious that the commenter didn't actually read much of what I'd written. I don't necessarily blame anyone for that; after all, I write longish posts, and am patently annoying. But I often write about things that are cool as fuck, so I don't necessarily begrudge anyone hopping onto the comments real quick just to say something, "Hey, I really like __________, too!"

For my part, though, I'd rather not do too much of that sort of thing. If I'm not at least trying to say something substantive, I'd rather just not say much of anything.

(B) Bearing in mind that I only read it the once, and that I was expecting it to be another "Watchmen" or "From Hell," I have to confess that I was underwhelmed by "Providence." This is not to suggest that it's bad; it certainly isn't, and may be great. But in the end, I thought it was just Moore farting around with Lovecraft. It had too little of the bite that "Neonomicon" had. But don't anyone let this dissuade you from reading it; it's VERY worth reading.